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NOTES ON BALDWIN FAMILY OF CORK CURRAVODY AND MT PLEASANT'………..

ELIZABETH BALDWIN married PHILIP HAWES CROSS of SHANDY HALL ,CORK in 1716.
They were my 5x great grandparents.

HENRY BALDWIN, born 1676 in Curravody, Mt Pleasant .Cork married JOHANNE FIELD
TRAVERS in 1695, daughter of WILLIAM FIELD and SUSANNAH BEECHER. Henry was the
father of Elizabeth Baldwin, who, in turn was the 3x great grandmother of RICHARD
HENRY RADLEY.

The children of HENRY BALDWIN and JOHANNE FIELD TRAVERS are as
follows……..Henry, William, ELIZABETH, Sara, Anna, Joanna and Mary.

HENRY BALDWIN, the son, married Alicia WARREN, 1728. One of his children was Alicia
Baldwin who married Rev JOHN MADRAS. JOHN MADRAS, son of Madras of Amsterdown,
was ordained French minister in 1735 and held that post till his death1773. In 1740 he was
appointed chaplain to the Earl of Kingston and in 1745 was created Procentor of Ross. He
is buried in the French church (My 4xgreat grandfather, JULIUS BESNARD, is credited
with starting that French church) These Anglo/Irish families are all related

This anecdote about BALDWINS is taken from Rosemary Ffolliotts IRISH ANCESTOR.

FRANCES FFOLLIOTT MD married Eva Catherine, daughter of JOHN BALDWIN of
Skibbereen 1849. His son Francis wrote "My grandfather had been attending Baldwins for
years and my father saved the life of my grandmother, Mrs Baldwin, and also my mother.
She was, (my mother) I believe, considered to be the most beautiful woman in the
county, but she was very proud and overbearing and I think, generally disliked. THERE IS
NO FAMILY I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS PROUDER OF THEIR PEDIGREE, THAN THE
BALDWINS. They had often said that the Ffolliotts were a respectable enough family, but
they should never have presumed to ask for the hand of a Baldwin!!

















Further notes on BALDWINS of Cork
HISTORY OF BANDON Chapter 22…BANDON MILITIA OR SOUTH CORK LIGHT INFANTRY.
These are notes credited to the above.
BALDWIN, Walter Junior, son of Walter Baldwin of Granahoonik. Mentioned in the report
addressed to the Court of Claims. Under the Act of Settlement, he obtained part of the
lands of Knocknough and Kilbolane. Walter Baldwin the elder, was the son of Herbert,
and grandson of Henry, the eldest of 3 brothers who settled here toward the close of
Elizabeth's reign. This Henry was the son of Henry, ranger of woods and forests in
Shropshire, who married Elinor Herbert, daughter of Sir Edward Herbert of Red Castle,
who was the 2nd son of the first Lord Pembroke. By Lady Anne, daughter of Lord Parr, of
Kendall, and sister of Lady Catherine Parr, surviving Queen of Henry VIII. Walter Baldwin
was succeeded by his son Henry, who married Miss Field, niece of Colonel Beecher of
Sherkin. He was succeeded by his son Henry (who married Elizabeth, daughter of Dive
Downes, bishop of Cork) by his 3rd wife Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Beecher of
Sherkin and relict of Capt Townsend. Henry had two sons, Henry, progenitor of the
Baldwins of Mount Pleasant and William, B.L.progenitor of the Baldwins of Lissarda; the
former married Miss Warren, sister of Sir Robert Warren, and the latter Miss French,
daughter of Alderman French of Cork. William of Lissarda, who was a very eminent
barrister, was succeeded by his son Henry, who married Miss Morris of Dunkettle, and
was High Sheriff of the county in 1777. He died, leaving amongst other issue, William who
married Mary Kirby, daughter of Franklin Kirby of Bamborough Grange Yorkshire. He was
also High Sheriff of the county in 1813. He died in 1838 leaving numerous issue.

THE BALDWINS CLAIM DESCENT FROM BAUDWIN (OR BALDWIN) BRAS DE FER, A
FRENCH NOBLEMAN ATTACHED TO THE COURT OF CHARLES THE BOLD, BY WHOM HE
WAS CREATED EARL OF FLANDERS. HE MARRIED JUDITH, CHARLES' DAUGHTER, AND
GREAT GRAND- DAUGHTER OF CHARLMAGNE. SHE WAS WIDOW OF ETHELWOLF, KING
OF ENGLAND AND STEPMOTHER OF ALFRED THE GREAT.


Further note on BALDWINS…………JOHANNE FIELD, was a niece of COL.THOMAS
BECHER/BEECHER. This would likely make SUSANNAH BECHER/BEECHER, married to
WILLIAM FIELD, the sister of Col THOMAS BECHER/BEECHER.


IRISH COUNTRYSIDE
FURTHER NOTES ON BALDWINS OF CURRAVODY AND MT PLEASANT.

WILLIAM BALDWIN, born 1580, Royal Forest in Salop. Married Eleanore Herbert.
Their son was WALTER HENRY BALDWIN, born 1636, CURRAVODY, MT PLEASANT, CORK.

His son was WALTER BALDWIN, died 1673.

Issue HERBERT BALDWIN died 1695.
He married MARY NEWCE.
Their sons were WALTER BALDWIN married MARY FOOT,
his daughter was MARY MERCY BALDWIN who married Samuel Townsend.

……++++++…AND…..……HENRY BALDWIN born 1676 MARRIED JOANNE FIELD TRAVERS about
1700……………………(JOANNE was daughter of William Field and Susannah BEECHER………….

COL THOMAS BEECHER and SUSANAH BEECHER, were brother and sister, and direct descendents
of PHANE BEECHER, who settled BANDON CORK………….
Henry Baldwin & Joanne Field Travers were my Great Grandparents (6x times) +++++++

Their son Henry Baldwin, born 1701, married Elizabeth Downes and their daughter Anne Baldwin
married Edward Maunsel Townsend.++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Henry Baldwin's sister ELIZABETH BALDWIN married PHILIP HAWES CROSS 1716. (5x ggps)

This unites the families of Radley/Baldwin/Beecher/Crooke/Hawes/Cross/Newce/Lindsey

SOURCE is primarily from Burkes Landed Gentry, and I.G.I, but also input from Jenny Stiles and
Stephen Frakes.



EXTRACTS FROM IRISH NEWSPAPERS. Source Church Latter Day Saints Family History.
BALDWIN DEATHS AND MARRIAGES

1818 27th August This morning at St.Peters Church,by Rev.W. Forseyth, HERBERT BALDWIN
ESQ.M.D to JULIA, Daughter of EDWARD HERRICK ESQ, of Belmount in this City Southern
Reporter Cork.

1819 Saturday 23rd January This morning at St.Paul's church by Rev.Barry Swete THOMAS
BALDWIN of Skibberean esq. to SUSAN only daughter of the late WILLIAM BENNETT of Glandore
in this county.
1819 of a fever on Monday 17th May ALICE ANN daughter of WILLIAM BALDWIN ESQ of Nelson
Place near Bandon Southern Reporter Cork.

1826 November 11 At Castle Townsend on Saturday last HUNGERFORD BALDWIN ESQ, port
surveyor, Baltimore Constitution & Cork Advertiser.

1827 Thursday 18th JanuaryOn Tuesday by Rev.T.Kenny at Glanmire, CHARLES HENRY. The
oldest son of HENRY BALDWIN of MT. PLEASANT to ELIZABETH CORKER, eldest daughter of
C.CORKER ESQ…………….. (NOTE by webpage owner…….. Does anyone know who Elizabeth
Corker's mother was??) Southern Reporter, Cork

1828 Tuesday 1st April, On Sunday last, in her 17th year, Catherine, eldest daughter of HENRY
BALDWIN ESQ M.D S.R.Cork

1831 Thursday 7/4 On 5th instant in St Nicholas Church.by Rev.John N. Lombard, Charles. 4th son
of CORLISS BALDWIN ESQ. MARTHA, only daughter of GEORGE STANNARD of Kilbrogan in this
county. Freemans Journal and Constitution and Cork Journal

1832 21 February In Nantes in France, in night of 6th of this present month, ELIZABETH, y.d.o
HERBERT BALDWIN ESQ M.D. She was child of most amiable disposition . Her death is source of
deep sorrow. S.R.Cork

1832 Sat.17th July On Saturday 23rd in Bandon in her 82nd year CATHERINE relict of Henry
Baldwin Esq of Newcourt in this County. SR. Cork

1833 Tuesday 16th April This morning at her fathers place Camden Place By Rev D. Murphy,
MARYANNE, only daughter of HERBERT BALDWIN ESQ M.P to JOHN only son of late Marty
O'Sullivan f Coolough(?) in this county S.R. Cork

1835 9th July Thursday in Lisburn on 13th JUNE MRS ANNE GOULD, relict of P.GOULD ESQ and
daughter of HERBERT BALDWIN ESQ MD. S.R.Cork

1836 Thursday 8th Sept On 2nd instant at her residence of North Main Street Bandon MRS
FRANCIS BALDWIN relict of JAMES BALDWIN ESQ.



"See also information on WARREN/SHURLEY page for connection to BALDWIN"

NEWSPAPER EXTRACTS FOR BALDWINS

1836 Sat.24th December On Thursday morning at Douglas Church, the Rev.John Busteed, Charles
Evanson esq son of the late Nathaniel Evanson esq of Four Mile Water to Eva Catherine second
daughter of the late John Baldwin (Srn Reporter Cork)

1837 2nd May At Kinsale on Sat.15th into 29th year of his age Clement Thomas Baldwin esq
formerly of the 8th or Kings Regt youngest son of William Baldwin esq formerly High Sherrif of
this county.

1838 Thur.24th May At Inshglister Glebe(?) William Baldwin esq, one of the oldest magistrates of
Co.Cork and Captain of the Bandon Yeomanery (Southern Reporter Cork).

1838 Thur.9 Aug.On 6th ins. At Sunday Well James Baldwin esq (SRC)

1838 Sat.22 Sept On 20th inst. At Carogrohan(?) church by Rev. Lohn N. W…?. Arthur Henry King
esq. son of late James King esq . to Elizabeth dtr of late John Baldwin esq of this city. (SRC)


1838 Thur.11 Oct At Skibbereen on morning 7th instant 14 yrs Anne Elizabeth 3rd dtr of Thomas
Baldwin esq. (SRC)

1839 Tues.22nd Jan.On Thur. 17th instant at Carogroban Church by Rev.R.B K….? Walter Baldwin
eldest son of Samuel Baldwin of Mossgrove to the only dtr of late Michael Murphy of
Knockanomore in this county(SRC)

1839 Tuesday 10th Sept. At Kinsale of maligiant typhoid fever on 6th inst after a few days illness
Susanah Baldwin, dtr of late William Baldwin (SRC)

1840 Sat 18th Feb At Skibereen on 16th ins Henry Baldwin Esq Ygst son of late Thomas Baldwin
at Mardyke Eng.

1844 Sat 24 feb. At his residence in Front St. Toronto, Upper canada on 8 Jan.in his 69th year the
Hon. William Warren Baldwin of Spadina. He was oldest surviving son of Robert Baldwin
formerly of Summerhill


BALDWIN NEWSPAPER EXTRACTS

1845 Sat 17th May at Myble Hill Terrace Henry Baldwin of Bandon Esq SRC

1845 Thur 13th November In 86th year Anne? Relict of late Thomas Baldwin, Mardyke in this
county (Southern Reporter, Cork)

1845 Tues. 25th Nov. at Skibberean by Rev Fitzpatrick Herbert e.s.o Herbert Baldwin esq of…? To
Kate e.d.o late Alexander O’Driscoll of Mt Music? In this county.S.R.C

1846Thur.1st Jan. On Thursday last by the very Rev,Dean of Cork, at Templemartin? In this county
Richard Tonson Rye of Ryecourt to Mary dtr of Henry Baldwin of Mt Pleasant. S.R.C

1846 Thursday 2nd July Thomas Baldwin esq late Captain….. SRC

1847 Tuesday 5 Oct. In Montreal, N.Amer. a few weeks after landing JOHN BALDWIN of
Mallowgaton, near Bandon.esq. SRC

1848 Tues.22nd Aug. At Bandon on 28 th inst after long and painful illness at Castle Baldwin.
Henry Baldwin esq. many years a magistrate in this county SRC.

1848 Tuesday 1 mar. On 3rd inst at his residence at Bandon FRANKLIN BALDWIN, many years
coroner of this county.

1849 Sat 19/26 May On Tuesdat, 15th instant at Templemartyr church by Rev Bernard Caroline
edo of Henry Baldwin esq Mt Pleasant to THOMAS BIGGS 97th Regiment.

NEWSPAPER EXTRACTS BALDWIN OF CURRAVODY AND MT PLEASANT..Source I.G.I



1857 Thursday 16th April On 11th instant Herbert James Henry Baldwin Jr. esq of Cl…… aged 35
years son of Herbert Baldwin Sr. MD JP formerly representative of city (cork constitution)



1857 Thursday 2nd June On 28th instant at Schull church by Rev.Arthur Baldwin uncle to
bridegroom, William Bennett Baldwin of Skibereen, to Margaret Charlotte, daughter of James
O’Callaghan esq. of Rose Cottage.



1858 Tuesday 9th Feb. On 3rd Dec at Westport church by Archdeacon Calthorpe. Edmund Becher
Baldwin esq son of late Franklin Baldwin of Bandon to Ellen Elizabeth 5th daughter of Joseph
Siske(?) of County Mayo (C.C)



1859 Tuesday 15th April At 10th instant at Christ Church by Rev.Robert Norcote brother of
bridegroom, Speare(?) son of late John Norcote MD Doneraile to Cerisia Maria 2nd daughter of
late Thomas Baldwin, Skibereen (CC)



1858 Thursday 28 April on 18th instant at Rock Cottage, Skull. Cork at residence of her father,
J.O’Callaghan, rge wife of William Baldwin esq, a son and heir (CC)



1859 Jan. At 2nd instant at Mt Beamish, Mary relict of late Walter Baldwin, esq, at Maryville in this
county (CC)



1859 Tues 19th April At Macroom on 16th instant James O’Sullivan, esq Bantry to Kate relict of late
Herbert Baldwin and daughter of the late Alexander O’Driscoll Skibereen (CC)






Notes on origin of BALDWINS. Taken from sources. History of Bandon, Pooles of mayfield etc.



Elizabeth Herbert of Powys. was the granddaughter of Ann Parr who was married to William
Herbert. Ann was the sister of Catherine Parr, the 6th wife of Henry VIII. Anne was 4th cousin to
Henry VIII and, being descended from John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, Son of Edward III.
( More complete details from History Bandon and Pooles of Mayfield)



THE first Baldwin was William, ranger of the Royal Forests in Shropshire. He married Elinor,
daughter of Sir Edward Herbert of Powis. William came to Ireland with his two sons and Walter,
the elder settled at Mt Pleasant. Thomas, the younger lived at Lisnagatt.



My 5xgt grandparents were ELIZABETH BALDWIN of Mt Pleasant married to PHILIP HAWES
CROSS. Of Shandy Hall.



BALDWIN LINEAGE is as follows…………




THE LINEAGE OF ELINOR HERBERT BALDWIN 1570 to 1594. Sources are Burkes, History of Bandon
and input of BILL TOLCH and myself. Who are direct descendents of Elinor.



ELINOR HERBERT married WILLIAM BALDWIN.



HER FATHER WAS SIR EDWARD HERBERT married to MARY STANLEY.



HER GRANDMOTHER WAS ANNE PARR married to WILLIAM HERBERT, 1st EARL OF PEMBROKE



GT GFATHER SIR THOMAS PARR married to MAUD GREEN

2GT GFR SIR WILLIAM PARR married to ELIZABETH FITZHUGH

3 GT GFR LORD FITZHUGH married to ALICE NEVILL

4 GT GFR RALF NEVILL, Earl of Westmoreland married to JOAN BEAUFORT,
Daughter of John of Gaunt

5 GT GFR CATHERINE SWYNFORD Married JOHN OF GAUNT, DUKE OF LANCASTER.

6 GT GFR EDWARD III KING OF ENGLAND married to PHILLIPA OF HANAULT.

Source DUGDALE'S BARONAGE and also in BEAUFORT PROGRESS THROUGH WALES.

Monument Inscription for Sir Edward Herbert.
FURTHER NOTES ON SIR WILLIAM HERBERT.





SIR WILLIAM HERBERT was appointed second gentleman of the Privy Chamber to Henry VIII
in1546. Sir William was the brother in law of Queen Catherine Parr



When Henry died in1547. a bizarre clause in his will allowed for the posthumous bestowal of
unspecified gifts that Henry had alledgedly” promised”.. Paget,. Denny and Herbert swore that
they had been made privy to the King’s intentions and at the beginning of February they drew up
a book specifying his “unfulfilled gifts”. They consisted of peerages and cash legacies.

WILLS RELATED To Baldwins of CURRAVODY and Mt pleasant supplied by JOAN PLATT. Source
CLD



Cork will of MAGERY BALDWIN of the Parish of Templemartin, widow, 26th May 1627.Richard
Knowles, Margaret Knowles, Joane Knowles d/o Richard Knowles and his son Thomas, and
James Baldwin my son.



Cork will of James Baldwin of Pollericke in the Parish of Kilmorey. Co.Cork 20th July 1683 Eldest
brother Walter Baldwin of Garrancoonigge, brother Herbert of Curravody, sister Mary Corlis,
Henry Baldwin now oldest son of brother Herbert. Herbert his second son, his other children,
Walter, Mary, Elizabeth, Katherine Corlis daughter of sister Mary Corlis. My god daughter Sarah
Baldwin, dau. Of my cousin John Baldwin of Lisnagatt. Cousin George Armstrong of Coulnapissy,
cousin Elizabeth Hawkes, Sister Marey Baldwin of Curravody.Overseers brother Walter Baldwin
of Garrencoonigge, cousin Lt Maskline Allcock of Culefada, kinsmen Lt John Baldwin of
Lisnagatt. My book WORKS OF MONSIEUR DE GRAY entitled COMPLEAT HORSEMAN AND
EXPERT PHARRIER. Exec brother Herbert Wit. Ferinand Bealy, John Nevill jr Randall Corkery jr.





CORK WILL OF HENRY BALDWIN OF CURRAVODY CO.CORK. 1 Dec.1695 Wife Mary. Daughters
Anne and Jane Baldwin Sons Henry and Herbert Daughters Mary and Elizabeth Exec wife. Wits
John Harrison John Baldwin.







CORK WILL OF HENRY BALDWIN SR of Garranaghooney alias Mossgrove parish of Templemartin
Co Cork 1 Nov 1743. Proved by Joanna Baldwin, widow of testator, 8 Oct.1750 Grandson Henry
Baldwin son of Councillor William Baldwin deceased Son Henry Baldwin. Nephews James
Herbert, Richard Baldwin, Grandson William Baldwin son to my son Henry Baldwin Grandson
Henry Alcock Granddaughter Joanna Poole. Exec wife Wit. Mask Alcock Robert Travers Walter
Travers.



THIS HENRY BALDWIN IS JOAN PLATT’s, BILL TOLCH AND MYSELF ‘s GT GRANDFATHER(6x, in
my case)

FURTHER NOTES ON ELINOR HERBERT born 1570 died 1594, married to WILLIAM BALDWIN

The HERBERT family of MUCKROSS were descended from the Earls of Pembroke. In the two
centuries they lived in MUCKROSS, members of the family married into BROWNES, VISCOUNTS
OF KENMARE, THE WHITES, EARLS OF BANTRY, the CUFFES, EARLS OF DESART and
connected to the BUTLERS, EARLS OF ORMONDE.

ELINOR HERBERT born 1570,. married WILLIAM BALDWIN, ranger of the ROYAL FORESTS in
SHROPSHIRE, since then the BALDWINS have quartered the HERBERT Arms.

MORE INFORMATION ON ELINOR HERBERT/WILLIAM BALDWIN.

SOURCE GENEALOGICAL AND HERALDIC DICTIONERY OF LANDED GENTRY OF GREAT BRITAIN
AND IRELAND. SIR BERNARD BURKE 1862

BALDWIN of CLOHINA.

The first of this family to settle in Ireland were two brothers. The elder was a ranger in one of the
Royal Parks married to a daughter of SIR EDWARD HERBERT. (Approx 1580). of POWIS, a house
enobled under that title and illustrious under those of Pembroke, Montgomery and Cherbury
(Burkes extinct peerage) From this the christian name of Herbert transmitted. They also quarter
the Arms of Herbert with Baldwin.

i. HERBERT BALDWIN esq CURRAVODY.. 3 sons….Henry married JOAN FIELD TRAVERS
++++++++ daughter of William Field, Alderman of Cork. They had 3 daughters ELIZABETH
married PHILIP HAWES. CROSS +++++ANNE married THOMAS POOLE of MAYFIELD. Joanne
married John Ware esq. Their 2 sons …... Henry married Alice daughter of Robert Warren esq.
and he was father of Walter Baldwin Mt Pleasant, High Sheriff of Cork 1763. He married Margaret
Hutchinson esq and was by his son, Henry, of Mt Pleasant father by Mary daughter of Herbert
Gillman esq. Henry Baldwin esq Mt.Pleasant married Ellen daughter of Chambre Corker and left
son and successor, Chambre Baldwin. William of Bettygift mar.1734 Elizabeth daughter of Philip
French and was ancestors of Baldwins of Bettygift

ii. Herbert whose line we treated

iii. Walter

iv. Ruth wife of Nathaniel Baldwin.



Herbert Baldwin esq. Clohina, married 1689 Mary, daughter of Colonel Hungerford.



+++++++ Great grandparents

PARR FAMILY /HERBERT/BALDWIN



Sir John De Parr Knight of Parr 1350 married Matilda daughter of Sir Richard De Leyborne…..
issue…..

John Parr married Agnes,daughter of Sir Robert Crophull and relict of Sir Walter Devereaux….
issue



Sir Thomas Parr of Kendal attainted at Coventry d 1461 married Alice dau. Of Sir Thomas
Tunstall Thurland Castle Lanc. Issue………



1st wife Joan dau of Trusbet dsp. Md 1.Sir William Parr of Kendall, who married 2ndly. Elizabeth
daughter of Lord Henry Fitzhugh.

2. Sir John Parr Sheriff Westmoreland 1462 who married daughter of Sir John Yonge, Lord
Mayor of London

3. Thomas Parr slain at Barnet Field 1472.
4. Margaret married Sir Thomas Radcliffe
5. Anne married William Harrington
6. Elizabeth married Sir Christopher Moresby
7. Agnes married Sir Thomas Strykland
8. Maud married Humphrey Lord Dacre
9. Eleanor md Sir Henry Agard


Children of Sir William Parr and Elizabeth Fitzhugh are Sir Thomas Parr married to Maud
Greene, their issue was ANNE PARR married to WILLIAM HERBERT EARL OF PEMBROKE. Their
issue was , among others, SIR EDWARD HERBERT married to MARY STANLEY. They had approx
12 children All the girls married titled gentlemen.. One daughter is not mentioned in any
documents. ELINOR HERBERT who married WILLIAM BALDWIN, ranger of Royal Forests. BURKES
GENEALOGICAL AND HERALDIC DICTIONERY 1862 , does say that “a daughter of Sir Edward
Herbert married William Baldwin” Baldwins also quarter Herbert Arms. It may be that Elinor was
illegitimate, but as she had the blood line, they married her to a person who was not titled, but
high up on social scale. Open to correction., if anyone knows more.

POSSIBLE ORIGIN OF WILLIAM BALDWIN, RANGER OF ROYAL FOREST, SALOP……. SOURCE
History of County Shropshire, MUNSLOW VOL 10.

In 1428 WILL BAUDEWYN (fl1422) was listed with William Burley, Lord Furnivalle as a principal
landowner. He was a Munslow Freeholder, as were his descendents until 18th century. One of
them RICHARD BALDWIN (fl1523) was ancestor of Earl Baldwin of Bewdley, prime minister
1923/4, 1924/9 1935/7. A chief house that belonged to JOHN BALDWIN (died 1605) passed to his
son William (fl 1620) was possibly “FARM OF MUNSLOW” that Roger Baldwin, John’s uncle, had
bought from JOHN STRINGFELLOW (purchaser of a moiety of the manor) in 1553 for Pemberton,
was later called the OLD SCHOOLHOUSE”

In the 16th century, there was only 404 people in this area, so it would seem possible that
WILLIAM BALDWIN , ranger of Salop, was one of these Baldwins.Nothing proven.

MAUD PARR, cousin to ANNE PARR (LADY HERBERT) wife of WILLIAM HERBERT, EARL OF
PEMBROKE, AND KATHERINE PARR , WIFE OF HENRY VIII.

Katherine and Anne were the daughters of Sir Thomas Parr, a descendent of Edward III, and
Maud Green, daughter of Sir Thomas Green. In 1543 , Katherine married Henry VIII. She used her
position as queen to advance her family in the acquisition of wealth and status. MAUD PARR
LANE, her cousin was , on death of her husband SIR RALPH LANE, brought into the royal
household, and was known as Lady Lane. Her father was Sir William Parr, brother of Thomas
and her mother was Mary Salisbury. Katherine and her ladies became active in promoting
Protestant religion.

Members of the court persuaded Henry that Katherine and her ladies were plotting to change
the Roman Catholic religion to Protestant.

The arrests of ANNE (LADY HERBERT) LADY LANE AND LADY TYRWITT ,were ordered. Henry was
finally persuaded.that the ladies were innocent of the charges.

Today many of Sir Ralph Lane’s descendents live in America.


SOURCE SHROPSHIRE HISTORY ARCHIVES (SALOP)



Title Deeds re REDNALL

1) Endorsed” 1659 Rednall”

2 red seals


2) WILLIAM son of Stephen son of BALDWIN of Montgomery to Nicholas Brisebon


EXCHANGE OF A MEADOW IN GRYMESMERE FOR 14 selions of land in BRECFA which Thomas
De Kennelioc once held


Witnesses WILLIAM son of BALDWIN,Alexander son of Philip. William Guge. BALDWIN son of
Philip, William son of “Hobinus” Andrew in Vinter Robert Wendout.



This proves that there were Baldwins in SALOP. I have chart of BALDWINs of Diddlesbury also.
(SALOP)

Historical note on WILLIAM HERBERT.



HENRY VII was born in PEMBROKE CASTLE. When Henry Tudor was five years, he was taken away
from his mother, and wardship was given to WILLIAM, LORD HERBERT.



HENRY was treated well by the Herberts and was given a n education befitting his rank. William
Herbert was executed in 1469., but Henry stayed on with Lady Herbert.

NEWSPAPER EXTRACTS BALDWINS OF CURRAVODY AND MT PLEASANT. Source I.G.I



1861 Fri 18 Jan. At his residence Clohina on 17th inst HERBERT BALDWIN ESQ MP JP in 80th
year. C.C

1861 Fri 15th Feb ROGER BALDWIN Feb13 at Armonde Quay Presbyterian Church by Rev John T
Black , WILLIAM ROGERS esq to FANNY SUSANNAH ydo late Franklin Baldwin, esq. Coroner,
Castle Baldwin, Bandon … Irish Times

1861 Tue 24 Dec On 22nd inst at Kilbrogan Hall, Bandon, Samuel Baldwin esq Mossgrove CC

1861 Sat 28 Dec. On 24 inst at ….Sunday Wells, Jane at an advanced age, dtr of late John
Baldwin, Passage

1862 Fri.7/3 On 24th ult at Cullinen, the residence of Kean Mahoney, near Killarney, Henry J
Baldwin Ensign 100th Regt only son of late Col Baldwin and nephew of the late Herbert Baldwin
of Clohina S.R C.C

1862 Thurs 29 May On 28 inst at her residence North Hill Bandon, Mary Baldwin relict of late
William McCreagh esq and dtr of late James Baldwin esq Bandon. C.C

1862 Fri. 19th Dec Baldwin R Watson St Annes Church Belfast, by Rev. Dr Miller Vicar of Belfast
Clement Kirby yso late Franklin Baldwin esq Castle Baldwin Macroom to Susan Jane, ydo David
Watson esq Armagh. Irish Times

1863 Mar 16 On 13th instant at Lisarda William Baldwin esq CC

1863 Sat 2nd Oct On 22 inst at Bandon by Rev Irwin assisted by Rev G. Harman cousin to the
bridegroom Lindsey…….? So Rev H Wilsford Tewesbery to Hester Kingston edo of the late
Hewitt Poole Baldwin esq of this county No cards CC

1863 Sat 21 Nov On the 16 Aug at St Pauls Dunedin, Otago, NZ William Baldwin esq RA member
of House Reps. NZ and member , Commissioner of Gold fields to Janet dtr of Andrew Buchanan
FRS .


TRAVERS INFORMATION which connects Baldwin/Crooke/Hawes Cross/Lindsey/Radley.etc,



Captain ROBERT TRAVERS, Abbeyville, Magourney, married ELIZABETH CROOKE, 1777(?)
Elizabeth was the daughter of William Crooke, my 4xgt gfr.



JOHN TRAVERS married JOANA RADLEY 1771. She was my 2xgreat gfr’s, (Thomas Radley.) Aunt.



EXTRACT FROM WILL OF HENRY BALDWIN’S STEPSON, JOHN TRAVERS November 6 1726.



Mentioned eldest son ROBERT, younger sons, WALTER,BOYLE, JOHN, WILLIAM, FRANCIS and
PETER and daughter ANNE. He referred to his brother (brother/in/law) PHILIP HAWES CROSS (my
5xgtgfr), his dear mother (JOANNA FIELD TRAVERS BALDWIN), and my father (step father ) HENRY
BALDWIN and his brothers HENRY and WILLIAM.



The Travers are cousins to Radleys.etc.

INTERESTING ANECDOTE REGARDING LORD STANLEY Who belonged to STANLEYS of
DALGARETH, an ancestor of Mary Stanley who married Sir Edward Herbert of Powys, who was
reputedly ancestor of BALDWIN s of CURRAVODY AND MT PLEASANT.



Source GREAT TALES FROM ENGLISH HISTORY by Robert Lacey.



Battle of Bosworth between Richard III and Henry Tudor ( later Henry VII) 1485.



Henry Tudor had been counting on support of Thomas, Lord Stanley. Richard III had seized
Stanley’s son and held him hostage



Richard clad himself in kingly armour, setting the gold circlet of the crown over his helmet. “This
day I will die as a king, or win”’



Richard’s cavalary charged, but was repelled by French pikemen. The king was unhorsed. Sir
William Stanley moved his troops across, overpowering the King. Richard fought very bravely,
refusing an offer of a horse, to enable him to flee. He fought to the last and the circlet of gold
rolled off his helmet. SIR WILLIAM STANLEY picked it up and placed it on Henry Tudor’s head.
“Sir, here I make you King of England”.

BALDWIN GENEALOGY

Source ALUMNI DUBLINENSIS 1593/1860 Casey Bibliography



Baldwin Arthur Pen. NOV 2 1812 aged 17 yrs son of THOMAS BALDWIN, gent.

BALDWIN HENRY S.C April 1757

BALDWIN HENRY Pen. Feb.2nd 1784 aged 17 son of Henry Baldwin, gent born Cork B.A L.L.B
Vern 1791 (of Middle Temple) 2nd son Henry Baldwin of Newcourt.Cork Irish Bar 1791

BALDWIN JOHN Pen. Jan 15th 1798 aged 17 years son of Thomas Baldwin, Merchant B.C.C

BALDWIN JOHN Pen. Jan.17 1835 aged 24 son of WALTER BALDWIN gent. Born Cork. B.A. Vern
1839

BALDWIN MARTIN Pen. June 29 1668 aged 17 son of John Baldwin esq born Warwikshire B.A
Vern 1671. See Foster.

BALDWIN NATHANIEL Pen. July 2nd 1842 aged 17 yrs son of FRANKLIN BALDWIN, coroner, Born
Cork BA Vern.1847

BALDWIN RICHARD Pen. May 16 1698 aged 16 son of Richard Baldwin barrister. Born Cork
Sch.1701 BA Vern 1702

MA Aest 1705

BALDWIN Stephen Pen. Ap.13 1757 aged 17 yrs son of Richard Baldwin Born Co.Cork Sch 1760
BA Vern 1761

BALDWIN WILLIAM Pen. Oct 25 1718 aged 17 son of Henry Baldwin. Gent Mossgrove near
Bandon Co. Cork (Irish Bar 1728)

BALDWIN William Pen. Nov 1 1813 aged 16 son of William Baldwin gent Cork BA Aest 1818

BALDWINWilliam Pen.July 2nd 1812 aged 17 son of Thomas Baldwin, soldier Cork BA Vern 1818

BALDWIN Winthrop Pen. May 5 1742 aged 16 son of Richard Baldwin, clergyman, Cork Sch.1744
BA Vern.1746 L.L.B Aest 1749



TRAVERS /BALDWIN WILLs.



Prerogative will of JOHN TRAVERS of BANDON, signed 6/11/1726 Proved 9/2/1727

Sons WALTER , BOYLE, WILLIAM , FRANCIS , PETER, ROBERT.

Daughter ANNE TRAVERS

Wife JANE TRAVERS

Lands in Trusteeship of HON.BRIGADIER ROBERT STERNE and HENRY BALDWIN Senior of
MOSSGROVE Co.Cork

Mother BALDWIN

Brother HENRY BALDWIN JR

Brother WILLIAM BALDWIN

Exec. Wife JANE, Uncle Gen.Brigadier ROBERT STERNE and my father HENRY BALDWIN Sr

Wits. WILL OWGAN. JOHN BALDWIN, FRANCIS WOODLEY My brother PHILIP HAWES CROSS,
son JOHN

WILL OF PHILIP FRENCH CORK ALDERMAN 19 Nov 1733.


( ELIZABETH FRENCH, eldest daughter of Philip French, married WILLIAM BALDWIN ESQ. (brother
of my 5 times great grandmother ELIZABETH BALDWIN md to PHILIP HAWES CROSS.)


FRENCH PHILIP, Cork Alderman. His wife PENELOPE FRENCH. Extx and guardian of children during
widowhood.

His eldest daughter Elizabeth French and his dtr Penelope French, Frances French and Susanna
French, unmarried and under 21 years of age.

His sons Philip French, Michael French and Abraham French (under 21 years)

His eldest son James French.

His sister Frances French.

His real and personal estate.

Wit. John Lane dyer, Chr.Pillion Brewer, DAVY JERVOIS, MERCHANT, all of city of Cork.

Memorial witnessed by John Welsh of Rath, RICHARD BALDWIN, CROSSMAHON gent both in Cork.


Penelope French extx (seal) Elizabeth BALDWIN (seal)

Elizabeth French now Baldwin, who since decease of said Philip French is married to
WM.BALDWIN


Vol 1 1708/1745 Registry of Deeds Dublin.

FROM ‘IRISH PEDIGREES’ BY JOHN O’HART

BALDWIN of MT.PLEASANT, KINALMEAKY, COUNTY CORK.

Two different origins are given for this family by genealogists, namely THOMAS BALBHAN
FITZMAURICE and 2. BAUDWIN or BALDWIN, EARL OF FLANDERS. The former was son to PATRICK,
the 7th Lord of Kerry, and the other was a nobleman attached to the court of CHARLES THE BOLD,
King of FRANCE, who created him EARL of FLANDERS. This BAUDWIN married Judith, daughter of
Charles the Bold and Granddaughter of Charlemagne, widow of Ethelwolfe. King of England and
Stepmother f King Alfred the Great.

We can trace back to HENRY BALDWIN, a RANGER OF WOODS AND FORESTS in SHROPSHIRE,
who married ELINOR, daughter of SIR EDWARD HERBERT of RED CASTLE, who was second son of
the first LORD PEMBROKE by LADY ANNE, daughter of LORD PARR, of KEDALL and sister of LADY
CATHERINE PARR (or PAER) surviving queen of Henry VIII, King of England. That HENRY BALDWIN
had 3 sons who settled in Ireland in time of Queen Elizabeth, the eldest of whom was Henry

SOURCE LDS film CLERICAL AND PAROCHIAL RECORDS, CORK CLOYNE AND ROSS by W.MAZIERE
BRADY

Volume 1 CORK

KILCULLY RECTORS

1720/42 RICHARD BALDWIN, KILCULLY, Also P.KILBRITTAIN

1762/63 THOMAS BROWNE A.B.R.V.KILCULLY


1773 JOHN MADRAS (Son of MADRAS of Amsterdam) Married secondly in 1768 ALICE (DAU. of
HENRY BALDWIN of CURRAVODY by ALICE WARREN) Had issue REV.JOHN HENRY MADRAS and a
dtr ANNE ELIZA who married 1789 ROBERT LONGFIELD CONNOR esq of Fort Robert. JOHN MADRAS
is buried at the French Church, Cork. Will dated 22 Apl 1769 proved 25 May 1774.







1773 JOHN MADRAS (Son of MADRAS of Amsterdam) Married secondly in 1768 ALICE (DAU. of
HENRY BALDWIN of CURRAVODY by ALICE WARREN) Had issue REV.JOHN HENRY MADRAS and a
dtr ANNE ELIZA who married 1789 ROBERT LONGFIELD CONNOR esq of Fort Robert. JOHN
MADRAS is buried at the French Church, Cork. Will dated 22 Apl 1769 proved 25 May 1774.

SOURCE LDS film CLERICAL AND PAROCHIAL RECORDS, CORK CLOYNE AND ROSS by W.MAZIERE
BRADY

Volume 1 CORK

KILCULLY RECTORS

1720/42 RICHARD BALDWIN, KILCULLY, Also P.KILBRITTAIN

1762/63 THOMAS BROWNE A.B.R.V.KILCULLY

1773 JOHN MADRAS (Son of MADRAS of Amsterdam) Married secondly in 1768 ALICE (DAU. of
HENRY BALDWIN of CURRAVODY by ALICE WARREN) Had issue REV.JOHN HENRY MADRAS and a
dtr ANNE ELIZA who married 1789 ROBERT LONGFIELD CONNOR esq of Fort Robert. JOHN MADRAS
is buried at the French Church, Cork. Will dated 22 Apl 1769 proved 25 May 1774.

FEET OF FINE S C.P 25/1/195/24 No.14

BAUDWYN (BALDWIN)


COUNTY SHROPSHIRE / PLACE WESTMINISTER/ One week from HOLY TRINITY 19 HENRY VII JUNE
1504

PARTIES WILLIAM JENKYS (JENKS) querent and RICHARD BAUDWYN (BALDWIN) deforciant

PROPERTY 5 Messuages, 5 gardens, 240 acres land, 15 acres of Meadow, 40 acres of pasture, 60
acres wood and 4 shillings and 5d rent in MUNSLOWE (Munslow)

ACTION: Plea of Covenant

AGREEMENT: RICHARD has acknowledged that tenements to be right to WILLIAM as those which he
has of his gift.

For this WILLIAM has granted to RICHARD the tenements and has rendered them to him in the
same count to hold to RICHARD of the chief lands for his life and after his decease the tenements
shall remain to WILLIAM BAUDYN,(BALDWIN) son of aforesaid RICHARD and heirs begotten by
WILLIAM on body of ELIZABETH, his wife, the daughter of WILLIAM JENKYS(JENKS) to hold of the
chief lands forever. In default of such heirs after the decease of WILLIAM BAUDWYN(BALDWIN) the
tenements shall remain to the right heirs of WILLIAM BAUDWYN (BALDWIN)

EXTRACTS FROM TEMPLEMARTIN . St MARTINS CHURCH OF IRELAND AND
GRAVEYARD....................A PROUD TRADITION

Extracts from Cork Evening Post A branch of BALDWINS lived in parish of Kilnamaryta west of
Macroom. The first Baldwin there was HERBERT, brother of HENRY the elder of MOSSGROVE,
who had a large estate at Clohina. He had a grandson James who ecame a doctor and Justice of
the Peace .James became a Catholic around 1750, a very rare occurrence in Penal times. He
was ostracised for a while by his family but not disinherited and married in 1763 MARY
O'CONNELL of Derinane, Kerry, an aunt of Liberator, DANIEL O'CONNELL

When new parish church in Kilnamartyra was built in 1839, the foundation stone was laid by DR
HERERT BALDWIN, a first cousin of DANIEL O'CONNELL.

TOMBS....There are 4 tombs of BALDWIN family of MT PLEASANT and Mossgrove, possibily the
most important landed gentry of area. The oldest is to HENRY the elder of Mossgrove born 1666
the e.s.o of HERBERT BALDWIN and MARIE NEWCE, daughter of Cap. William Newce from whom
Newcetown received its name. Henry the elder, married 1695 JOANNA FIELD TRAVERS, a young
widow with a baby son. They had 2 sons and four daughters. William Baldwin was ancestor of
Baldwins of Lissarda.Tomb on right side of church near roads is of descendents of William of
Lissarda.

MT.PLEASANT HOUSE.....CROWS IN THE POUND.

A farmer named Horgan had a few fields of wheat. Horgan complained to Baldwin regarding his
crows eating the wheat. Baldwin was very proud of the rookery at Mt Pleasant and told Horgan if
he could catch the crows he could drive them to the Bandon pound. Horgan mixed alcohol with
wheat and the crows ate it. Horgan collected the inebriated crows and took them to pound. Mr
Baldwin kept his word and released his crows and paid old Horgan for the wheat.

A few lines from MEET OF G.BALDWINS HOUNDS 1844....MOUNT PLEASANT HOUSE

On the 7th November the sportsmen did meet, at the gate of Mt Pleasant each others did greet.
But first Mr GODFREY I am sorry to say, was unable from illness to join us that day.But then there
was FRAN KLIN a good man and true, as steady a foxhunter he is equalled by few. John
COUGHLAN, the HAWKES to whom theres no bounds, and the GILLMANS who ever ride well to
the hounds
All these people are my direct ancestors. Elizabeth Baldwin, dtr of Joana Field Travers Baldwin
was my 5th great grandmother. She married Philip Hawes Cross. Most of these Anglo/Irish
families are intermarried,

ELINOR HERBERT's ANCESTRY. Document supplied by JAMES BALDWIN and written by TERRY
KERMODE. This is only one page of a lengthy document on BALDWINs. WJS=W.J.Smith
RFF=Rosemary Ffolliott

Towards the end of 16th century, WILLIAM BALDWIN, RANGER of the ROYAL FOREST in SALOP
married ELINOR HERBERT. This lady had a most illustrious ancestry, for her grandmother was ANNE
PARR, sister to QUEEN CATHERINE PARR, sixth and last wife of HENRY VIII. Anne married WILLIAM
HERBERT, whose father was an illegitimate son of EARL of PEMBROKE, whose honours were recreated
in William Herbert's favour. The Pembrokes moved in high society and Anne assisted at christening of the
Prince of Wales, later Edward VI. She and her sister were 4th cousins of HenryVIII, being descended from
John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, son of Edward III. In his old age John of Gaunt had married his mistress,
the widow Catherine Swynford, by whom he had a large family. The Pope then decreed that these children
were legitimate- for all purposes except for succession to Crown of England. That proviso was later
conveniently forgotten, and their great grandson later ascended the throne as Henry VII. "John of Gaunt's
father, Edward III, was of course the descendent of numerous celebrities-William the Conqueror, King
Alfred of the cake burning fame, Charlemagne and slightly mythically alas - the god Woden" (Rff)
There is some mystery about how Elinor's other ancestors came to be called Herbert."Sir William ap
Thomas, who died in 1466, ...was steward of the lordships of Usk and Caerleon under Richard, Duke of
York, and was knighted in 1426. He became Lord of Raglan by purchase from James, Lord Berkeley, who
was his stepson...by a 2nd wife (daughter of Henry V's famous squire Dafydd Llewellyn or Davy Gamm) Sir
William was father of two eminent sons, William Herbert, created Earl of Pembroke in1468 and Sir Richard
of Coldbrook, near Abergavenny. These two brothers were beheaded together in 1469 after being captured
by Lancastrian rebels at battle of Edgecote.

"Sir William ap Thomas is called Sir William Herbert in a number of works, but there seems to be no
evidence that he or his forbears used the name or were known by it.His elder son, the Elder Earl of
Pembroke, was, however, apparently using it in his father's lifetime, and refers to in his will a brother as
Thomas Herbert...It seems probable that the name was assumed as a family surname, in the English
style. A little before 1460.Itis natural enough that a Welsh family living on the borders of England, and
seeing itself rising rapidly in the world, should want to exchange the Welsh system of patronymics, varying
from generation to generation, for a fixed family name. But why they chose the name Herbert remains un
explained."(WJS)

William Earl Pembrokes, eldest son William exchanged his title for another so the title became extinct.
His next son, Sir Richard, was illegitimate, as was his youngest, Sir George Herbert of St.Julians..Sir
Richard's eldest son William Herbert married Anne Parr, and in1551 was elevated to a new creation of the
Earldom of Pembroke. He was described as a "most powerful nobleman" His younger son, Sir Edward
Herbert, bought the Red Castle near Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, known as later Powis Castle. He
altered it and made several additions, including the Long Gallery, which featured his eighteen quareterings
round the freize. His son Sir William Herbert, Elinor's brother, was created 1st Baron Powis in 1629. RFF
says that this William "ventured to Ireland and in 1589 he and Sir Charles Herbert were granted 18000
acres in Kerry and Desmond at 8d per acre. This may account for his brother in law William Baldwin
settling in Cork" However WJS found that it was another William, Sir William Herbert of St.Julians, gt gson
of Sir George of St Julians, mentioned above who was the Irish Undertaker. He was thus Elinor's 3rd
cousin. (Also land in Kerry was 4d per acre) This land was around Castleisland) Since that time Baldwins
have quartered the Herbert Arms.

SOURCE FILM NO 40/133/246/40 BALDWIN TO BECHER Supplied by JOAN PLATT.

Deed of Lease and Release 31 Dec an 1 Jan.1722

Lease between 1 HENRY BALDWIN of GARRANEHOONIG, Esq and JOANNA, his wife and HENRY
BALDWIN JR. son and heir apparent.2 MICHAEL BECHER of AUGHADOWN and ROBERT TRAVERS
of Coolneconnaught. Cork

Release between

1. HENRY BALDWIN and JOANE and HENRY BALWIN JR.
2. MICHAELBECHER AND ROBERT TRAVERS
3.JOHN ROBERTS of Dublin city ESQ and JOHN TRAVERS of Coolna Connaught
4. ELIZABETH DOWNES only dtr of late Rev. Father DIVES DOWNES, late Lord Bishop of Cork and
Ross, deceased by his late wife ELIZABETH DOWNES als BECHER, decd one of sisters of MICHAEL
BECHER. Marriage to be shortly solemnised between HENRY BALDWIN and ELIZABETH DOWNES.
Marriage portion of 1,800 pounds sterling.

Towns and land in Barony of Kilnameaky Co.Cork and towns and lands in Barony of Muskerry.

Present Penelope French , Philip French of Cork City. Alderman
Rev,Richard Goodman of Bandon Clerk ,John Fleming of Aughadowne farmer.


.."..POWIS CASTLE,near Welshpool in POWYS. Bastion of Welsh Princes in Middle Ages.
Bought by SIR EDWARD HERBERT in 1587..... In 1784 Lady Henrietta Herbert married Edward
Clive, son of Clive of India and united Powis and Clive estates.Eleanor Herbert, the great
grandmother of Baldwins was said to be the daughter of Sir Edward. It is more likely that she
was either illegitimate daughter or grandaughter of Sir Edward or related to one of his natural
born sons. He had six mistresses and had a son from each."

MUCKROSS HOUSE KILLARNEY belonging to HERBERTS
EXTRACT FROM 73 PAGE DOCUMENT

KINDLY GIVEN TO ME BY ONE OF THE BALDWIN FAMILY.